The rise of the mayavadi defenders

The rise of the mayavadi defenders

The major battle for the soul of Srila Prabhupada’s teachings is no longer on the outside.

As someone who is reading Srila Prabhupada’s books daily and listening to his lectures, I am really annoyed with the current destruction of Srila Prabhupada’s legacy executed by Radhanath Swami and his followers. All the nonsense motivational speak preaching, all the mayavada in his lectures is really spreading throughout ISKCON as cancer.

However, this mayavadi disease can’t be contributed to Radhanath Swami only. It can be contributed to all other ISKCON’s fake gurus who are not protesting against this nonsense:

Regarding the position of a person who does not speak even when he knows the truth: jani saksi nahi deya tara papa haya. ‘A person who knows things as they are and still does not bear witness becomes involved in sinful activities’. (May 17, 1975 morning walk)

Thus, Radhanath Swami and his disciples are like cancer which is spreading through ISKCON. And there is no opposition because saying something against Radhanath Swami is very “offensive”. After all, he is a “pure” devotee. A “pure” mayavadi devotee. And how can we understand that he is pure?. Because other pure ping pong players, mushroom eaters and Garsha ri chanters decided that he is very pure.

In a recent Dandavats post, Radhanath’s disciple Caitanya Charan das decided to solidify mayavadi nonsense by providing a philosophical explanation. If you don’t know who Caitanya Charan is, that is the same guy who gave a seminar about how Srila Prabhupada is imperfect. But of course, spineless ISKCON leadership couldn’t finish off this retard, on the contrary, his mayavadi nonsense his published on Dandavats again. How could this happen? Because corrupt Praghosha das is running this website. Praghosa is also GBC member and purest of the pure. If you don’t agree with that, you will be kicked out of ISKCON.

So, if you have time and you are not afraid that you will vomit, you can hear Caitanya Charan’s divine explanation of how we can preach Krishna consciousness without mentioning Krishna. Or if you don’t have the taste for listening to mayavadis, you can just skip mp3 and check my summary below:

Catanya Charan’s points from the above mp3 recording:

  • People who are interested in Krishna consciousness is very few.
  • During the period that Srila Prabhupada was in the USA, there was great interest in Eastern spirituality.
  • Today, people are interested in yoga, but not in kind of spirituality which resembles religion.
  • The strategy is to give people what they think they need so that they become receptive to us, then we can give them Krishna.
  • This is bonafide because in the past, Brahmanas where doing karma-Kanda and bhakti at the same time.
  • Today, people want mental relief and peace. If we give them that, they will become more receptive.
  • This is a specialized service which may be done by a few people in a few places.
  • This is similar to scientific preaching.
  • We need to get Krishna to people, and this has to be done in a way relevant to them.
  • We can reach a great number of people through this method, otherwise, doors would be closed for us if we would use the traditional preaching method.
  • People who we reach with motivational speaking, also begin to appreciate our movement.

My response

Very few

It is true that very few people were interested in Krishna consciousness. Question is when we talk about”very few”, what percentages are we speaking about. Srila Prabhupada was satisfied with his Bhagavad-gita preaching and the number of followers he was getting:

Reporter: What’s your feeling?
Prabhupāda: My feeling, I am very satisfied that Kṛṣṇa is accepted by presenting as He is. I must be very satisfied, because before me, who did not present Kṛṣṇa as He is, there was not a single Kṛṣṇa conscious person in the Western world. Now I have got thousands. So why I shall not feel satisfied? Those who misinterpreted Bhagavad-gītā-“This is this, this is that, this is that”-they could not get even one Kṛṣṇa conscious person, and by presenting Bhagavad-gītā, they are selling fifty thousand copies per month, and I am getting every year one thousand, two thousand Kṛṣṇa devotees. So why it is not practical?

Eastern spirituality in the sixties

The idea here is that people in the sixties were interested in eastern religions, but today they are interested in yoga, therefore we have to preach about yoga. This idea demonstrates complete stupidity.

People in sixties where not interested in Krishna consciousness. They were interested in smoking marihuana and having sex. They were interested in eastern spirituality so that they can “feel spiritual” while smoking marihuana. Krishna consciousness is about surrendering to Krishna, controlling your senses, reading books every day for one hour, getting up early in the morning and leading pure life without intoxication and illicit sex. Hippies of the sixties were not interested in that at all.

Rather, Srila Prabhupada was able to convince them to join because of his purity and spiritual power. And because he didn’t change the message of the parampara.

The whole notion that times are constantly changing and therefore we must preach nonsense is completely inaccurate. Krishna consciousness is universal and eternal science. 3 modes of material nature existed 50 years ago and they exist today. Lazy and lusty people who don’t want to surrender to Krishna existed 50 years ago and they exist today. Nothing really changed.

This idea of preaching nonsense to attract nonsense people is completely rejected by Srila Prabhupada:

1974 March 3: “We will present our program exactly in the line of Lord Caitanya, by kirtana, prasadam distribution and speaking from Bhagavad-gita. We cannot deviate even an inch in order to attract the followers of the ecology philosophy or any other materialistic, utopian movement. Our ideal Vedic community will attract everyone on its own merit.

Give people what they think that need so that they become receptive

This is a very strange idea. Caitanya Charan claims that if Radhanath baba and Gaur Gopal preach nonsense and cheat people, then somehow people will become receptive to Srila Prabhupada’s original message. But he failed to explain how will that magical transformation happen.

If I come to some hall, and I cheat people by telling them that they can live a stress-free life if they become compassionate and forgiving, that is just plain cheating.

A person can wake up their forgotten Krishna consciousness only by the mercy of Srila Prabhupada and Krishna. But if we preach nonsense, we will never get mercy.

And we can see that practically, Radhanath Swami is not creating staunch followers of Srila Prabhupada, he is creating retarded mayavadis and yoginis who raise their butt in the air. And he is not able to create followers of Srila Prabhupada because he himself is not a follower of Srila Prabhupada.

Teaching and practicing yoga is described by Srila Prabhupada as asat:

So if we infect the Māyāvādī quality, karmī quality, jñānī quality, yogī quality… I see some of the students, still they practice some yoga āsana. That quality is not yet… He’s not yet free. But this is nonsense. This is nonsense. We should, by promise, we should not associate with any of their qualities. That is… Asat-saṅga-tyāga-ei vaiṣṇava-ācāra, asat-eka strī-saṅgī kṛṣṇābhakta āra [Cc. Madhya 22.87]. Asat. Asat means bad element, bad association. So asat-saṅga. We have to give up asat. “So who is asat, Sir?” Caitanya Mahāprabhu’s speaking = asat-saṅga-tyāga ei vaiṣṇava-ācāra. Vaiṣṇava’s behavior, Vaiṣṇava’s character should be simply to give up the company of the asat….. (Lecture SB 1.10.13, Jun 26, 1973, Māyāpur)

People want mental relief and peace. If we give them that, they will become more receptive

Problem is we can’t give people mental relief and peace. Because mental relief and peace can’t exist without Krishna consciousness.

Real mental relief and peace come from getting rid of birth, death, old age, and disease, not from raising your butt in the air.

So, if our preaching includes lying and fooling people, we will never be able to become a genuine preacher and get the mercy of Srila Prabhupada.

Additionally, if you support yoga, then how will you be able to give real teachings later on. And the real teachings of Krishna consciousness is the following:


Everyone is thinking, “Oh, there are so many problems I have to solve. I have to make this, that, this, so many.” But he has no problem. He has no problem. His only problem is how to accept Kṛṣṇa. That’s all. And Kṛṣṇa is so kind. He says, “Yes, you accept Me. Simply chant Kṛṣṇa. I am yours. That’s all.” But my, I am so misfortunate that I cannot chant even. All problems solved simply by chanting Kṛṣṇa. Etādṛśī tava kṛpā bhagavān. Caitanya Mahāprabhu teaches that “O Kṛṣṇa, You are so kind that You have come to Me in the sound vibration, word, ‘Kṛṣṇa.’ I can very easily chant, and You remain with Me. But I am so misfortunate that I have no attraction even for this.” You say people, “You chant Kṛṣṇa; you get everything.” They will not believe it. If you say, “You press your nose. You pay me fifty dollars. I’ll give you some nice mantra and this, that. You make your head like this, leg like this,” “Oh,” he’ll say, “here is something.” Something. “And this Swamiji says, ‘Simply chant Kṛṣṇa.’ Oh, what is this?” Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, etādṛśī tava kṛpā bhagavān mamāpi durdaiva: “But I am so unfortunate that You have become so easily available in this age, but I am so unfortunate, I cannot accept it.” So the Kṛṣṇa consciousness so easily being distributed, but they are so unfortunate, they cannot accept. Just see. And you give them bluff, you cheat them-they will, “Ah, yes, welcome. Yes.” They’ll welcome it. And cheaters are always ready: “Oh, there are so many customers for being cheated. Let me take advantage of it.” So my Guru Mahārāja used to say, “This world is the society of cheaters and cheated.” The members are somebody are cheating, and somebody are cheated. The association of cheaters and cheated. So we want to save them from this society of cheaters and cheated. (Room conversation, Columbus Ohio, May 10, 1969)

If you are a cheater, how will you preach against cheaters?

Motivational speakers preaching is bonafide because in the past, Brahmanas where doing karma-Kanda and bhakti at the same time

Another nonsense argument, Srila Prabhupada never said that we should preach nonsense in order to please nonsense people and make them interested in Krishna consciousness.

Motivational speakers are deeply embedded in ignorance. You can’t be relieved of stress if you don’t know how three modes of material nature work. The very idea that we can have stress free life without practicing Krishna consciousness constitutes cheating.

Brahmanas in the past were doing karma-Kanda yajnas which actually worked and which were mentioned in the Vedas. While motivational speaking nonsense is not mentioned anywhere in the Vedas and it doesn’t work.

We don’t care what Brahmanas were doing in the past. We care about what Srila Prabhupada told us to do. And Prabhupada never told us to do karma-Kanda or to preach nonsense.

We can reach a great number of people through this method, otherwise, doors would be closed for us if we would use the traditional preaching method

That is true. The more we preach nonsense, the more nonsense doors are open for us in this nonsense world. But also, the more we preach nonsense, the more we lose mercy of Srila Prabhupada and the more we become compromised.

ISKCON could open disco clubs, in this way, we could reach many more people. This shows you how Caitanya Charans idea is very dangerous.

So far the Road Show and this Yoga Village are concerned, these things should be stopped. Simply perform our kirtana. If we divert our attention in this way, the whole thing will gradually deteriorate. He is going far away. All these things are nonsense inventions. Such inventing spirit will ruin our this movement. People may come to see, some will become devotees, but such devotees will not stay because they are attracted by some show and not by the real thing or spiritual life according to the standard of Lord Caitanya. Our standard is to have kirtana, start temples. What is this “Road Show” and “Yoga Village?” It will be another hippie edition. Gradually the Krishna Consciousness idea will evaporate: another change, another change, every day another change. Stop all this. Simply have kirtana, nothing else. Don’t manufacture ideas. (letter to Sudama — Vrindaban 5 Nov, 1972)

The examples

When we speaking about Radhanath mayavada, Gaur Gopal nonsense, we need to be able to give some examples of that nonsense. If you are a regular visitor to my website, you are already familiar with Gaur Gopal and his mayavadi videos. If you are new to my website, here is a list of articles we did about him.

For Radhanath baba, he is an unlimited ocean of nonsense, just google “Radhanath Swami motivational speaker” and click on any video, you will get same nonsense, such as this one – retarded mayavadi salt tattva: