The horror of joining ISKCONHanuman das
I received a few more questions by email. I discuss very important question of association.
Thanks a lot Prabhu ji for your clear cut answer. It is really helpful for me, I will be more focused on reading Srila Prabhupada’s all book first then will get back to you for further guidance prabhuji. But if I don’t associate with anyone then won’t it be a problem for my spirituality because I think without association one can not grow in spirituality.
That is another imagination of the corrupt ISKCON society. By associating with ISKCON people, you will become enemy of Srila Prabhupada because you will have to watch mayavadi Radhanath baba and his followers preach opposite of what Srila Prabhupada preached. Then you will see all other corrupt leaders of ISKCON silently tolerating this nonsense. And you will also gradually learn to tolerate it, and in this way, you will be contaminated by mayavada. Genuine followers of Srila Prabhupada are very rare, and there are not many of them in ISKCON.
So, the truth is quite the opposite, by associating with ISKCON people, you will be forced into a very dangerous Gestapo, brainless mentality, where you will gradually lose all your intelligence. Just look at ISKCON members, they are not able to say one word publicly against sannyasi with a girlfriend, Sacinandana Loverboy “Swami”. Do you really want to become like them? By associating with them, you will definitely become like them.
Do you want to be silent retard who has to believe that Bir Krishna Goswami is pure devotee, although he preaches that Lord Caitanya ate mushrooms? Do you want to believe in fake guru Hridayananda das Goswami who plays ping pong with girls and supports homosexual marriages?
Do you really believe that the association of such people will bring you any spiritual advancement? And other so-called gurus who are not directly preaching nonsense, but they will never stand up against nonsense and challenge nonsense. These are puppy gurus and their disciples are called puppy disciples.
You wanna become puppy disciple?
So, the first order of business: Read original Srila Prabhupada’s books and stay away from corrupt ISKCON society and become independently thoughtful:
Otherwise, management, everything, should be done locally by local men. Accounts must be kept, things must be in order and lawfully done, but that should be each temple’s concern, not yours. Krishna Consciousness Movement is for training men to be independently thoughtful and competent in all types of departments of knowledge and action, not for making bureaucracy. Once there is bureaucracy the whole thing will be spoiled. There must be always individual striving and work and responsibility, competitive spirit, not that one shall dominate and distribute benefits to the others and they do nothing but beg from you and you provide. No. Never mind there may be a botheration to register each centre, take tax certificate each, become separate corporations in each state. That will train men how to do these things, and they shall develop reliability and responsibility, that is the point. (Letter to Karandhara, Dec 22 1972)
This letter shows you how much ISKCON degenerated. They are doing everything exactly opposite from Srila Prabhupada wanted. Puffed up “pure” GBC members, preaching retarded philosophy and acting like drunk Saudi princes. Everything is centralized. Temple presidents can’t fart without the approval of local GBC representative, nobody can’t become guru without the approval of the drunk Saudi princes from GBC body.
Prabhupada said “independently thoughtful”. Show me one independently thoughtful man in ISKCON. ISKCON management is full of retarded corporate brahmanas, who can’t even recognize mayavadi when they see him (spoiler: Radhanath baba).
Srila Prabhupada said “separate corporation” in each state, but retarded GBC “pure devotees” centralized everything and bankrupted the movement by protecting pedophiles (spoiler: Turley case). Radhanath baba is the leader of pedophile protectors, look at Saunaka Rsi videos if you don’t believe me. Saunaka Rsi caught Radhanath on tape defending a pedophile.
Srila Prabhupada said: “Once bureaucracy is there, the whole thing will be spoiled”. This is the good moment to ask you if your potential guru signed “guru form” and went through the whole bureaucracy procedure of “being appointed pure”.
Srila Prabhupada said, “not that one shall dominate and distribute benefits to the others and they do nothing but beg from you and you provide.” This is exactly what is happening. Drunk Saudi princes are ruling a Gestapo movement where pedophiles are protected, and anybody who starts preaching against Ramesh baba is kicked out of the movement. So that Sannyasi with girlfriend Sacinandana baba can “preach” peacefully.
Just read Srila Prabhupada’s original books and stay away from ISKCON, that corrupt organization will pollute your Krishna consciousness. Anybody who follows corrupt GBC and promotes “guru list guru” philosophy is ultimately a cheater.
That’s the statement which is available on Vedabase:-
“Indian man (1): When did you began to become the spiritual leader of Kṛṣṇa consciousness?
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Brahmānanda: He’s asking when did you become the spiritual leader of Kṛṣṇa consciousness?
Prabhupāda: When my Guru Mahārāja ordered me. This is the guru-paramparā.”
Yea, but what his guru Maharaja ordered him. He ordered him to preach Krishna consciousness in the West. Guru doesn’t favor some of his disciples and promotes them to guru position and ignores others. That is the wrong idea:
Prabhupada: So far designation is concerned, the spiritual master authorizes every one of his disciples. But it is up to the disciple to carry out the order, able to carry out or not. It is not that spiritual master is partial, he designates one and rejects other. He may do that. If the other is not qualified, he can do that. But actually, his intention is not like that. He wants that each and every one of his disciple become as powerful as he is or more than that. That is his desire. Just like a father wants every son to be as qualified or more qualified than the father. But it is up to the student or the son to raise himself to that standard.
Atreya Rishi: Yes, I understand.
Prabhupada: If you are incapable of raising yourself to the standard of becoming a spiritual master, that is not your spiritual master’s fault; that is your fault. He wants, just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, amara ajnaya guru hana [Cc. Madhya 7.128], By My order, every one of you become a guru. If one cannot carry out the order of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, then how he can become a guru? The first qualification is that he must be able to carry out the order of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Then he becomes guru. So that carrying out the order of Caitanya Mahaprabhu depends on one’s personal capacity. Amara ajnaya guru hana. (Room Conversation, 29 June 1972, San Diego)
As you can see, Srila Prabhupada says that guru doesn’t designate one disciple and rejects others. Srila Prabhupada never did it, but GBC is doing it. They are approving only corporate yes-men who will tow the party line and will surely reject anybody who preaches the actual truth. Thus, they converted parampara into a political power game.
Every student is expected to become Acarya. Acarya means one who knows the scriptural injunctions and follows them practically in life and teaches them to his disciples. …Keep trained up very rigidly and then you are bona fide Guru, and you can accept disciples on the same principle. But as a matter of etiquette, it is the custom that during the lifetime of your Spiritual Master you bring the prospective disciples to him, and in his absence or disappearance, you can accept disciples without any limitation. This is the law of disciplic succession. I want to see my disciples become bona fide Spiritual Master and spread Krishna consciousness very widely, that will make me and Krishna very happy. (Letter to Tusta Krsna, 2 Dec. 1975)
Srila Prabhupada says “without any limitation”. And GBC body is doing exactly opposite, mushroom eaters and ping pong players took the task of “approving gurus” and they are doing a bad job, with over 70 fallen gurus.
So, don’t join the crazy show called ISKCON, you will surely be cheated.
ys Hanuman das