Stolen wives and wife switching preachersHanuman das
Few days ago, a wife was stolen from ISKCON Zagreb, of course, everyone will probably pin the whole issue exclusively to bh. Sanel, but in this article, I will go deeper than that, showing that sahajiya preaching strategy and preacher’s personal example are the ones to blame here.
Hidden quote you are not supposed to know about
Devotee: (reads translation in German) (German discussion with guest)
Prabhupāda: Sex life, married couple, that is all right; not otherwise. That is sinful. (translated into German throughout)
Devotee: Śrīla Prabhupāda, just his objection was that in this statement in the Bhagavad-gītā doesn’t clearly say no reason you should not have sex life outside of married life, they simply state religious principles, but this is…
Prabhupāda: Religious principle means married life; otherwise cats and dogs. So what is the… If everyone has without any limitation sex life, then what is the difference between cats and dogs? Religion means they are not cats and dogs, because religion is in the human society, not in the cats’ and dogs’ society.
Guest: I agree that in the Christian (indistinct) also. And in the life who will come, will not be sexual life in the future in the perfection state. No there will no be the sexual life
Prabhupāda: Yes, in the spiritual life there is no sex life. In the spiritual world there is no sex intercourse. There is no sex life. Although there is man and woman, but there is no sex intercourse. By chanting the glories of God there in the spiritual world, they get so much great pleasure that is far beyond this pleasure of sex life. If you have something best, then you forget lower-grade pleasure. So this sex pleasure is lower-grade pleasure. It is not pleasure; it is illusion. But in material world this is the greatest pleasure. Therefore everyone, they are coming back to the sex pleasure. Everyone. Even so-called religionists and svāmīs and…, they are coming down to the sex pleasure. Because in this material world that is the only highest pleasure. (Conversation – GERMANY – June 20, 1974)
My email to Prahladananda Swami from 2015
I think this is the first letter I ever sent regarding preachers who like to divorce and remarry. This was before bh. Sanel even joined the temple. Of course, nothing has happened after this letter.
References: <email@example.com> In-Reply-To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Message-ID: <CAHEdfkG2ee8A4LWhUOfV+kuT6htj8hETfKkBZjndKkp_RVEBTg@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:56:02 +0000 Subject: lecture ban by Suvarna Bindu prabhu From: Hanuman das To: Bhaktivaibhava.Swami@pamho.net Cc: "email@example.com" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Suvarna <email@example.com>
Dear Bhaktivaibhava Swami,
please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
For last 3 months, I am not allowed to give lectures in temple Zagreb. As you can see from below letter, Prahladananda Swami says he doesn’t know anything about it.
So now I write to you, since I know that your disciple Suvarna Bindu prabhu is behind this decision. My first problem with your disciple is that I wasn’t able to defend myself. This decision is made by him behind my back without anybody even talking to me. They talked to me only after they made this decision. Is this the standard way you train your disciples to be crooked like that?
My main complaint that main festival preacher and Sunday feast preacher in Croatia Nitai-Paramananda das is already in his third marriage. Last time he divorced and remarried was just because he found somebody “more pretty”. He is allowed to give lectures, while I myself am in my first marriage for last 10 years and I am not allowed to give lectures. We are both around 20 years in Krishna consciousness.
I preach a lot about social relations Srila Prabhupada envisioned, namely that women should be chaste and husbands should protect them. For this very reason of danger on free mixing between sexes, I am against women being gurus, being in GBC and being temple presidents.
I understand that some devotees don’t agree with me and with way I preach about it and they want to provide different perspective on the matter based on other Srila Prabhupada’s quotes. While disagreement is acceptable, what is not acceptable for me is that people try to shut me up behind my back just because I think differently.
My other complaint about your disciple is that he didn’t give me any written explanation about this decision so that I could complain to higher authorities. Even today, after 3 months, I don’t have anything in writing about this ban. I would call this highly unprofessional and I don’t think any ISKCON leader should act like this.
While I would like to say that your investigation team did a good job in allowing us to get rid of Sundarananda, who is complete womanizer, things are still far away from ideal. Did we go through all this just to replace one type of crooked politics with another type of crooked politics?
My email to Prahladananda Swami from 3 days ago
This is my last letter written 3 days, ago, I clearly explained that if cat and dog level preachers are not replaced, I will make video about this. I never got reply on this letter either. Leaders are strong in their determination to keep cat and dog level preachers as role models.
Message-ID: <CAHEdfkFyi84fdJX80C0z4EijirX7J=o3zuWTpJGUA5eUx8EEAA@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 13:11:04 +0000 Subject: stolen wife in the temple of the divine secretary From: Hanuman das To: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com> Cc: Suvarna <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Dear Prahladananda Swami,
please accept my humble obeisances.
Bh. Sanel, who lives in the temple Zagreb for a last year or so, stole a wife of Kirticandra, devotee from Czech republic. Wife was also staying for some time in temple Zagreb.
They ran away, and resurfaced on Sunday Feast in Sarajevo.
This is due to the fact that leadership is showing a bad example. Main festival and Sunday feast lecturer in Zagreb is in his third marriage, and he left his last wife just because “he found more beautiful one”.
Do you actually support cat and dog level preachers?
I think now would be a proper time to remove Nitai Paramananda from any lecture positions in temple Zagreb. People started imitating him.
Either that, or I make video called “Stolen wife in the temple of the divine secretary”.
If I make video about some ISKCON temple, there is always huge mess created, you can ask Shyamasundara prabhu, he just witnessed this in Bangalore.
So, let’s avoid that if possible. So, I am giving fair warning, that’s because I am very humble and I still believe that this mistake can be fixed without going public.
Now, if you plan to sell your “proper evidence” fairytale, if you tell me that there is no stolen wife, and that I imagined everything and that I am promoting rasa lila, better think twice, last time you lied to me and failed to react regarding Brajraj Sharan tour in Croatia, it ended up ugly. I made 3 videos about Sacinandana baba, and one video about you, totalling over 11000 views. I am not sure if I reduced the queue of people waiting to become your disciples, since that queue is empty anyway, but for Sacinandana baba, these videos were devastating. He looks 10 years older last time he appeared publicly.
If you don’t reply, I assume you agree that cat and dog level preachers are truly able to take us back home, back to Godhead.
Let’s not repeat the same mistake by ignoring me and thinking my videos are “harmless”. In recent weeks, my audience jumped from 1000 to 5000 unique visitors on a monthly level. Hiding and ignoring things doesn’t work these days. Facebook is the devil, I know.
Actually, you can ignore me, but this will unfortunately make another cut in your reputation. You will be marked as founder of “cat and dog preacher” indirect preaching strategy.
Deadline for your response: Saturday morning.
Sweet dreams and please read Krishna book, story called “The Deliverance of Dvivida Gorilla” specifically relevant in this case.
Let’s make ISKCON great again.
your servant, Hanuman das
P.S. – I have gut feeling that you will not reply to this email. But that’s not a problem, I enjoy making videos about stolen wives and “cat and dog level” preachers, and their protectors. I’ll quote Prabhupada a lot in my video, I promise.
I warned ya all, everybody was thinking I was joking
Origins of wife switching strategy
Followers are following wife switching preachers, preachers are following sannyasis with female secretaries.
And sannyasis with secretaries are following babas who spend their nights in disco, watching young girls dance.
It’s one happy family, protecting each others backs. Srila Prabhupada is successfully eliminated.