ISKCON Temples lost due to lack of fault findingHanuman das
Today, we gonna discuss major lack of fault finding and how it affects ISKCON in most gross way.
Few das ago, I received email with newest update on the stolen Brooklyn temple. You can read it on the link which I inserted, but basically, what is happening will be a long and gruesome battle around very valuable building.
But, intelligence means to be able to recognise root cause of the disease, not only the symptoms. Symptom is that Prabhupada’s temple is being stolen in a very open way. But why this happened, that is the real question. Well, GBC Body didn’t do pedophile cleanup 20 years ago when they were supposed to turn all the pedophiles to the police. But they looked the other way, because “fault finding” is bad. And pedophiles were always given “another chance” instead of being reported to the police. Years of lack of such fault finding resulted in well known Turvey case. So, you see, if we don’t want to do our own fault finding, lawyers and criminal courts will have to do fault finding for us.
As a result of Turvey case, many ISKCON temples changed ownership from being directly owned by ISKCON, to being owned by strange foundations, such as in case of Brooklyn temple, the owner is Bharati foundation. And because GBC did major mistakes in setting up this foundation, ISKCON is now losing this temple. Which is not really a problem, since GBC body didn’t deserve to manage Prabhupada’s society, since they are supporting sannyasis with female secretaries, this is something that Prabhupada was strongly against.
But even worse than obvious loss of temples, there are temples which are stolen in indirect way. They are still officially in ISKCON, but you are no longer allowed to repeat Prabhupada’s teachings there. One such example is temple Zagreb. Sacinandana baba, ISKCON “guru” who is travelling with his girlfriend for the last 10 years and follows Ramesh baba was not dealt with, because we should not do “fault finding”. But since GBC didn’t do fault finding, Prahladanananda Swami was forced to lie to protect Sacinandana baba. But ISKCON gurus should not lie, but if you protect sannyasi with female secretary, because you are not allowed to do “fault finding”, then you sink deeper and deeper in the sahajiya toilet.
So, what is the situation today? There are two opposed Sacinandana baba fractions in Zagreb, and they are waging war for years in order to secure building and few petty followers. This underlying sahajiya war is visible even on the official website of ISKCON Croatia:
My translation and commentary is as follows:
In a last few weeks, from several devotees, we got information that group of individuals connected with private center in the city are spreading lies about temple in Bizek, devotees who are connected with the temple and GBC for Croatia, his holiness Prahladananda Swami. They are spreading this lies within their own circle which is then further related to new people.
😀 😀 😀 What lies? These people are so ignorant, that they don’t know that if you want to disprove some attack officially, you have to at least say what is your document all about. What lies? And you can also see the Gestapo mentality. “Private center” in the city is run by Sacinandana Swami disciple Sundarananda das. Well, if he opened his “private center”, I guess he can preach whatever his likes. But no, “temple authorities” don’t allow Sundarananda to preach what he wants within his own circles. You can see the depth of censorship ocean in Zagreb. By the way, it is worth mentioning that those same guys kicked Sundarananda out one year ago. And now they are very surprised that he is preaching against them. 😀
But you see, they will never create problems when Sundarananda brings Ramesh followers to Croatia, they will never speak strongly against their fake guru Sacinandana Swami who travels with his girlfriend. On the contrary, they will ban everybody who dares to say something against Ramesh baba or divine secretary tattva. So, to sum up, they are really ideologically very similar to Sundarananda.
So we decided to write this statement by which we repeat what everybody who comes to the temple already knows, that everybody is welcome to come to darsan of Sri Sri Gaura Nitai, offer service, and to engage according to capabilities and rules of temple because it is the temple of all of us. We are keeping high spiritual standards, and we lead transparent finances. As authorised body within zagreb yatra for giving recommendations for initiations, we give recommendations to all devotees according to standards. We are organising various programs in the temple, in the city and everybody is invited to join and give contribution to development of our community and reputation of ISKCON.
My God, for a long time I didn’t see so many lies in one paragraph. First of all, everybody is not welcome to temple, for example, I am banned because I don’t like Ramesh baba and I don’t believe in divine female secretary for sannyasis. You can see their full letter on english and croatian when they banned me. Then, they say that they “keep high spiritual standards”, their spiritual standards are so high that they accepted sannyasi with a female secretary as their guru, they also organise “Drug dealer, women hunter festival“. Also their main festival preacher is caught traveling with young girls in his third marriage. I wouldn’t call that high spiritual standards. So, yes, everybody is invited to join in, as long as you are brainless and don’t see anything wrong in deviations which they are doing. And this is the very reason why nobody wants to join their fake society, place of main sahajiya in Zagreb is already taken by Sundarananda, and all sahajiya followers already went to join him. From the other side, genuine Prabhupada followers are not interested to follow their small Gestapo regime, which is just a bad copy of Sundarananda’s sahajiya heaven. In other words, they are banning real Krishna consciousness, and in the same time they are not fully Ramesh, so, they are basically nowhere.
In case somebody is telling you something opposite of this, or you have some question, please email us or calls (firstname.lastname@example.org, or Govinda-nanda phone 091 575-0472), because we want to remove intentional untruths and give you personal experience so that you could bring your own conclusion.
Yours in the service of Prabhupada, temple board Zagreb, International society for Krishna consciousness.
My God, “yours in the service of Prabhupada“. What hypocrites. Prabhupada was against sannyasis with female secretaries, Prabhupada was against Ramesh sahajiya nonsense, if you really want to have personal experience, try going to temple Zagreb and saying publicly that “Ramesh baba is nonsense, and that all his followers such as Sacinandana baba are also nonsense” and you will very quickly find out that this crew doesn’t have anything to do with Prabhupada.
So, we gave two examples of what happens when you miss a dose of fault finding, one was very straightforward, where Brooklyn temple was stolen directly from Prabhupada, as a consequence of Turvey case, and second example is temple Zagreb, where the temple was stolen by deviated disciples of deviated guru. When Sacinandana Swami started traveling with his girlfriend 10 years go, after his first honeymoon was over, GBC body and senior members of this movement were not supposed to stay silent, they were supposed to raise their voice against nonsense and protect Prabhupada’s legacy. But they didn’t do that. So now, 10 years later, Ramesh sahajiyas are kicking Prabhupada’s followers from the temples they stole from Prabhupada.
If first pedophile that appeared in ISKCON was turned over to the police, and was prosecuted by criminal justice system to the maximum extent possible, other pedophiles would think twice before trying something. Or they would simply leave to find religious organisation with more friendly pedophile environment. Similarly, if Sacinandana Swami was confronted by numerous articles and facebook posts, he wouldn’t be able to pull this show off. But, sheep are trained to never protest, and if you want to be standard ISKCON follower, one of the first thing that will happen is that your sense of discrimination will be clinically removed by the GBC body and ISKCON “authorities”. Then, when you become brainless, then you can be good “non envious” ISKCON member. So, that you don’t disturb fake gurus while they do their nonsense. On the contrary, if you are in Zagreb, “authorities” will be most happy if you take initiation from their fake guru. So, this is classical society of cheaters and cheated which Prabhupada warned us against.
In other words, instead of creating strong society, where nonsense is exposed publicly, we created society of brainless sheep, where nobody dares to say anything against gross deviations, and deviants are growing without opposition. That was a bad choice. And Prabhupada’s movement is already half finished.