Hospitalman strikes backHanuman das
Hare Krishna, we will analyze another attack on Srila Prabhupada and the philosophy of Krishna consciousness by Radhanath baba’s followers.
SB 8.9.29 Purport
Activities performed for the satisfaction of Kṛṣṇa are permanent and good, but asat activity, although sometimes celebrated as philanthropy, altruism, nationalism, this “ism” or that “ism,” will never produce any permanent result and is therefore all bad. Even a little work done in Kṛṣṇa consciousness is a permanent asset and is all-good because it is done for Kṛṣṇa, the all-good Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is everyone’s friend (suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānām).
Full verse and purport: vedabase.com/sb/8/9/29
Mundane welfare book by Murari das
You can download book here
Hare Krishna, we will analyze another attack on Srila Prabhupada and the philosophy of Krishna consciousness by Radhanath baba’s followers. We will hear parts of the lecture by Bhakti Madhurya Govind Swami, where he reads Prabhupada’s purport, and then goes to preach directly against Prabhupada. This is a recording from September 2016, it’s a Srimad Bhagavatam lecture on verse 8.9.29. where Srila Prabhupada says in the purport: asat activity, although sometimes celebrated as philanthropy, altruism, nationalism, this “ism” or that “ism,” will never produce any permanent result and is therefore all bad. and immediately after reading the purport, this so called disciple of Prabhupada starts attacking Prabhupada. Let’s hear it.
11:33 12:30 … This is poor fund of knowledge.
Now question is, why devotees don’t agree that ISKCON should become something like a red cross organisation? Where are they getting their inspiration from? They are getting it from Srila Prabhupada, Prabhupada said on numerous occasions, we are not interested in the hospitals, we never open hospitals. So, if somebody is following Srila Prabhupada’s ideas, Swami claims that such person has poor fund of knowledge. But in the same time, he is not providing any quotes from Prabhupada to prove his point. Let’s hear further:
12:30 – 13:02: Did you hear this nonsense? So, this so called disciple of Prabhupada is calling Bhaktivedanta hospital a “major devotional project” but in the same time, he is not able to prove that curing material bodies of people is transcendental activity. On the contrary, he is attacking a book written by Murari Prabhu, called “Mundane welfare in ISKCON”, he calls this book “a deviation”, but this book contains hundreds of quotes from Prabhupada where Prabhupada explains that hospitals are not “major devotional projects.”. He calls this book deviation, but he is not able to provide a single quote from Prabhupada to solidify his point. This is north korean mentality that I am often talking about. You have to follow dear leader who is completely brainless, and if you protest, then you are offender.
Now, he starts making threats to the people who distribute this book, let’s hear it:
13:20 14:00 – Threats
Now he continues to explain what is Nrisimha Vasuki for next 20 minutes because he doesn’t really have real arguments to defend hospital nonsense.
Well, my reply to you, mister Hospitalman, is why don’t you try to give Nrsimha Vasuki to me? I’ve done much worse things than those devotees trying to distribute “Mundane welfare book”, I have actually uploaded this book to my website and whole world can read it now. So, you can try give Nrisimha Vasuki to me over internet.
Now, after 20 minutes of telling unrelated stories about Vasuki snake, now he starts to manifest his actual ignorance about the subject matter, let’s hear it:
31:50 – 35:05 – Number of devotees argument
Hariiibol, all glories to the power of ignorance. Can you please show me those 450 devotees that Bhaktivedanta Hospital made in one year? Just a photo? List of names, and their phone numbers. I would like to call a few devotees from this list. Truth is, Bhaktivedanta Hospital or Radhanath baba for that matter, are just imagining things. I mean this childish nonsense would be accepted only by blind believers. They can not actually provide any evidence to confirm their claim, which means they are lying. If this hospital really made 450 devotees in a year, photos, testimonies and articles about this miracle would be all over the internet. But, there is nothing, which this Swami is lying. Instead of having publishing actual evidence, they have fake preachers spreading fake information without any quotes of evidence. You will not find a single photo or article about this “great achievement” anywhere on the internet. So, it’s just cheating and lying, that’s all, let’s hear the next argument.
35:05 – 35:44 – Prabhupada’s bhajans
So, if we play Srila Prabhupada’s bhajans in the bank for example, does that make banking business transcendental? If we play Prabhupada’s bhajans in a gas station, does that make the activity of selling petrol transcendental, I don’t think so. So, it you really want people to hear Prabhupada’s message, you can go to harinam and sell his books, why do you need the whole complicated hospital setup, just to play Prabhupada’s bhajans. You can play Prabhupada’s bhajans anywhere. Mission of this movement is to spread Prabhupada’s teachings, and money should be spent in opening centers of Krishna consciousness. So, if it is all about Prabhupada and his transcendental voice, then why don’t you hear his voice when he says he doesn’t want hospitals?
- 35:45 – 36:33 Murti argument
So, next argument is Srila Prabhupada murti argument, what is the use of putting Srila Prabhupada’s murti if you are not following his instructions? He said hospitals are mundane nonsense.
You know what, I just had a great idea, we could build a shopping mall and put Prabhupada’s murti there also. Then, all the nonsense people who are buying all the nonsense stuff in this shopping mall could become transcendental just because Prabhupada’s murt is there.
The problem is, when people see Prabhupada’s murti in the hospital, they come under the false impression that Srila Prabhupada is one of the fake saints who were opening hospital. Prabhupada’s murti should be removed from that hospital and hospital should be renamed to something else. It’s just a group of devotees running a business, that would be honest approach. Portraying Prabhupada as some nonsense welfare worker is offensive. And it is Radhanath baba’s fault that he converted Prabhupada into something which he is not.
- 36:35 37:22 – Siksastakam argument
So, Siksastakam prayers are nice, but you can sing siksastakam prayers in any devotee owned company, it doesn’t automatically make activities of that company transcendental. So, if you sing siksastakam in company that produces nuts and bolts, it is not that producing nuts and bolts becomes transcendental just because you are singing siksastakam there. This is just devotees working together, trying to make a living, there is nothing transcendental about curing people.
Same goes for wearing tilak, you can wear tilak in car repair shop also, that doesn’t make car repairs transcendental.
And at the end, he says that people are becoming Krishna conscious just by walking through the door of that hospital. This is is nonsense. Definition of becoming Krishna conscious is: When you become fascinated with Prabhupada and with the knowledge he presented in his books, that means your Krishna consciousness has begun. Not just by walking through the door of some hospital. The is cheap definition of Krishna consciousness.
- 37:30 – 39:10 – Tulasi argument
This is most stupid argument of all. There is tulasi plant growing outside of Bhaktivedanta Hospital. That is the proof that hospital is transcendental. That also proves that I am Donald Duck. Tulasi plants are growing literally everywhere in India. They are also growing near slaughterhouses, does that make slaughterhouses also transcendental? My God, I hope this guy never makes it to the guru list.
- 39:10 – 39:23 – Prasadam argument
Prasadam can be distributed anywhere, in harinam, in the temple, on festivals, if your goal is to distribute prasadam, you don’t need a hospital. Curing material bodies of people for money is mundane activity, yes, you can distribute prasadam on the side, but that doesn’t make curing people a spiritual activity.
- 39:25 – Deities argument
Zippy is not proper nickname for Lord Krishna, and Swami who nicknamed them like that is seriously ignorant, driving Deity around through the hospital where people pass stool and urin in their beds, I don’t think it’s a good idea.
Grhastas in Krishna consciousness are able to perform any type of business and try to “spiritualize” it as much as possible, but calling hospitals “Bhaktivedanta” hospital, and putting Srila Prabhupada’s murti there is a serious offense to Srila Prabhupada’s lotus feet. Sannyasi preaching from the vyasasana during Srimad Bhagavatam lecture how hospitals are “devotional projects” is a proof that they are seriously ignorant, and as you can see, he didn’t provide a single quote throughout his whole lecture to support his ideas. At the same time, he attacked book which is full of Srila Prabhupada’s quotes on this subject.
This means if you are not careful in devotional service, you will be cheated by fake guru Radhanath baba and his clones. Be careful.
Full disclosure – Complete audio lecture
- 11:50 – Introduction to hospital attacks
- 12:40 – Attack on book “Mundane welfare in ISKCON”.
- 13:40 – Nrsimha Vasuki challenge
- 31:50 – Start of hospital lila defense
- 32:50 – Number of devotees per year argument
- 34:25 – Hospital makes 450 devotees per year
- 35:05 – Prabhupada singing bhajans, whats mundane about that
- 35:45 – Murti argument
- 36:45 – Siksastakam argument
- 37:00 – Docktor wearing tilak – Bank- car repair shop
- 37:20 – Becoming Krishna conscious just by walking through the Door
- 37:40 – Tulasi argument
- 39:10 – Prasadam argument
- 39:25 – Deities argument