Homosexual saints of TorontoHanuman das
Devotional service toward Sri Krishna should be practiced within certain limits and according to certain rules. Lord Krishna never introduced homosexual saints in any scripture. Srila Prabhupada was following the same strategy and clearly explained that the chances of spiritual advancement for homosexuals are nil:
My Dear Lalitananda dasa,
Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dat ed May 13rd, 1975 and have noted the contents. I am very sorry that you have taken to homosex. It will not help you advance in your attempt for spiritual life. In fact, it will only hamper your advancement. I do not know why you have taken to such abominable activities. What can I say? Anyway, try to render whatever service you can to Krishna. Even though you are in a very degraded condition Krishna, being pleased with your service attitude, can pick you up from your fallen state. You should stop this homosex immediately. It is illicit sex, otherwise, your chances of advancing in spiritual life are nil. Show Krishna you are serious, if you are.
I hope this meets you in good health.
Your ever well-wisher,
A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami (letter May 26th, 1975)
Similar statement was also made by Srila Prabhupada in Srimad Bhagavatam purport:
It appears here that the homosexual appetite of males for each other is created in this episode of the creation of the demons by Brahmā. In other words, the homosexual appetite of a man for another man is demoniac and is not for any sane male in the ordinary course of life. (SB 3.20.26p)
As long as they follow principles, everything is ok …
Since Malati “prabhu” went to Moscow last week to introduce gay tattva to Russians, now we will perform retaliatory action by exposing North American-Canadian homosexual saints.
Her main argument that it is ok to be gay as long as you are following all the principles. But two homosexual men should not live together in a relationship, only complete fool would believe that they are “following the principles”. Main principle of Krishna consciousness is broken since they are not living in any of the 4 asramas created by Lord Krishna. There is no such thing as gayasta asrama. So, statement that “you can be gay as long as you follow principles” can be only accepted by somebody who is retarded and doesn’t know philosophy of Krishna consciousness.
Rupa and Sanatana Goswami
I came to know about this issue last year, through facebook messenger message from a devotee who knows the situation in Toronto. He was speaking about Bhakti Marga Swami:
This is perfect example how ISKCON philosophical conclusion deviated from Prabhupada’s and Krishna’s teachings, this devotee speaks about homosexuals, and he claims that they are “nice devotees”. Compare that to Prabhupada’s statements from the beginning of this article and you will see huge difference.
Besides Australia, there is another homosexual couple in Toronto, as you can see on this photo, they are performing pujari work:
They both received initiation from Bhakti Marga Swami in 2013:
You can watch the whole video here:
Always together, wearing white, no wives or kids:
Then we have “happy fathers day“, you know, just two fathers, no mothers, I think we should allow gay couples in ISKCON to adopt children, as long as they are “following the principles”.
Imaginary social pressure
A million dollar question is “Why GBC corrupt leadership is introducing homosexual saints?” ok, it’s clear that gays are around us, but do we have to give initiation to people with demoniac tendencies, and put them to work as a pujari? Of course we don’t have to do that. But we are we doing it? Why is Bhakti Marga Swami doing it? Because he is more merciful than Prabhupada, that is the key issue here. He is more merciful than Prabhupada and more merciful than Krishna. Being homosexual is equally saintly as being in grhasta asrama, it’s all one, it all the same. Am I the only one, or somebody else has a feeling that this is mayavadi philosophy?
Someone might say that we have to have homosexual pujaris because western liberal democracies guarantee same rights regardless of sexual orientation. That is true, homosexuals managed to establish equal rights and they created image of being “normal people” just like everybody else. But Prabhupada doesn’t agree.
Of course, some backward countries like China and Russia still didn’t fully assimilate gay normality philosophical point.
Even today, there are still big battles within christianity on the issue of same sex marriage.
The next phase of gay assimilation is introducing the gender fluidity philosophy to public schools. However, there is opposition to that also.
However, no country in the world even tried to force religious leaders to accept gays as equally saintly as hereosexuals. They didn’t even try to do that, what to speak of succeeding.
Therefore, Bhakti Marga Swami’s push with homosexual pujaris was not due to pressure from the government, but due to sincere belief that Prabhupada was wrong.
Conclusion – silent deviation
ISKCON is appointing homosexuals as pujaris or altar priests, but pujari post should be reserved for people who lead very pure lifestyle. We could see that not only from this article, but also from Australia, where ISKCON deity worship minister Nrisimha Kavaca das approved homosexual pujaris together with Prahladananda Swami.
But all these activities are happening without any public announcement or decision by the GBC. That is main problem here. If GBC body wants to introduce and promote homosexual saints, they should openly reject “homophobic” Prabhupada and his teachings and state publicly that they have become more merciful than Prabhupada, everything else is cheating.
But, according to Prabhupada, living a spiritual life is not about what “I feel enjoyable”, it is about what Krishna feels enjoyable. We should adjust ourselves to Krishna and Prabhupada instead of introducing deviant practices to please the masses.
Prabhupada: Priests should be ideal character and they are advocating homosex? Now where is the ideal character man? If the priestly class are going to hospital for drinking habit and they are allowing man to man marriage and homosex then where is ideal character?
Social Worker: But homosexuality is a sickness, it is an illness. Just like a person cannot see would you punish him for not seeing? You can’t punish a person for being homosexual. That’s what our society says.
Prabhupada: Now, anyway, the priestly class is sanctioning homosex. Sanctioning. They are allowing homosex.
Social Worker: Yes, well we say…
Prabhupada: …and there was report that man and man was married by the priest. In New York there is a paper, “Watchtower,” – that is a Christian paper, I have seen in that paper – they are condemning it – that priest is allowing man to man marriage. And they are passing a resolution – homosex is passed, all right. And in Perth [Australia] you said that the students are discussing about homosex, in favor of homosex. So where is the ideal character? If you want something, tangible business, train some people to become ideal character. That is this Krishna consciousness movement.
Social Worker: But people say what is ideal to you is not ideal to them.
Prabhupada: I am giving the example – ideal character.
Social Worker: Yes, but it is one opinion.
Prabhupada: No. It will not depend on opinion. Opinion, what is the value of opinion if the people are all asses? There is no opinion. One should take as it is enjoined in the sastras.(Room Conversation — May 21, 1975, Melbourne)