Gentle introduction to cat and dog level

Gentle introduction to cat and dog level

Introduction by Hanuman das

Another article by my friend from Brazil, well researched, it goes to show that Brazil is testing grounds for preaching divorce, also known in Srila Prabhupada’s books as cat and dog level.

Prabhupada: Whatever Kṛṣṇa has kindly sent, let me be satisfied with this. They do not want more than that. Similarly, “Kṛṣṇa has sent me this woman as my wife, oh, let me be satisfied with that.” That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness, that He’s pleased to send me such foodstuff, He’s pleased to send me such wife, He’s pleased to give me strength for so much defense.” So the whole question is solved there. But because we have got high intelligence, we are going to surpass the intelligence of Kṛṣṇa. “Oh, Kṛṣṇa has given me this wife? Why not search out another nice wife?” That means I am going to surpass the intelligence of Kṛṣṇa. “Oh, Kṛṣṇa has sent this prasādam. Oh, this is all vegetables. Why not take some animal food and liquor?” Kṛṣṇa does not send you liquor. You have manufactured. Kṛṣṇa has sent you this fruit, He has sent you the grains, Kṛṣṇa has sent you the milk. You should be satisfied. (Morning Walk at Stow Lake — March 27, 1968, San Francisco)

I can understand that divorce because they can’t follow the proper standard, but to preach cat and dog level is whole another level of rascaldom.

Article by Brazilian devotee

Who is Giridhari Das:

  • He received Brahman initiation from Hridayananda Dasa Goswami.
  • Hridayananda Dasa Goswami is actively promoting his book “3T Path” on his Krishna West website and he praises Paraíso dos Pândavas, a yoga resort owned by Giridhari Das, as one of the most sucessful Krishna West projects.
  • Here’s how Hridayananda Dasa Goswami describes Giridhari Das: “Giridhari das (Gustavo Dauster) is the leader of our flagship Krishna West project in Brazil. While holding various leadership positions in ISKCON, including Director of BBT Brazil and President of the ISKCON Brazil National Council, he has published three books on Krishna bhakti and yoga philosophy. In 1998, he built and established Pandavas Paradise, a yoga retreat center and eco-lodge located on a one thousand-acre ecological paradise in the heart of Brazil, where he lives with his wife and two sons.”
  • He’s zonal secretary in trial in the Brazilian GBC.

List of deviations being preached by Giridhari Das:

As others have already noticed, Giridhari Das is simply acting as a mouthpiece for Brazilian leaders and sannyasis who secretly agree with everything he says but remain silent as they aren’t bold enough to stand for what they believe in public view.

The major proof of this is that the Brazilian GBC is considering to approve gay marriage inside ISKCON temples. ( See here ).

Everything Giridhari Das is preaching is being publicly endorsed by Hridayananda Dasa Goswami until he publicly declares otherwise. For those of you who don’t know, Hridayananda das Goswami is completely fluent in Portuguese and he can understand every word in each one of these videos. He’s already been notified about the behavior of his disciple but instead he chose to go on endorsing and encouraging him instead of chastising him.

Hridayananda Dasa Goswami should be removed from his position as a guru and Krishna West should be banned from ISKCON unless they stop preaching divorce and illicit sex life. Preaching divorce is not allowed in ISKCON.

What he’s preaching:

Tudo que você faça, ao começar você já deve ter na sua mente, ou até por escrito, limites. Que nem a gente faz com contrato de negócio: cláusula de desistência. O que eu vou fazer que vai interromper esse contrato. E você deve saber disso no começo, para reconhecer quando a coisa começar a surgir.

Então por exemplo, no relacionamento amoroso. Você pode ser assim, não estou dizendo que tem de ser assim. Muitas pessoas vão botar lá, não, preciso de fidelidade. Tem cláusula de fidelidade. Se a pessoa ficar tendo intimidade com outras pessoas, então pra mim o relacionamento acabou. Ok, então você tem isso definido, cláusula de fidelidade.

Ah, eu quero reciprocidade. Na medida que eu tô me entregando pro relacionamento, eu quero receber de volta. Se eu tô dando bom dia eu quero receber bom dia, se eu tô dando carinho eu quero receber carinho, eu quero essa troca, eu quero que esteja num nível igual. Eu não quero eu ficar fazendo coisa legal e a pessoa não me dar nada de volta. Então… reciprocidade. Se não tiver… desistência. Vou achar que esse relacionamento não serve pra mim.

Vem cá, perdão. Toda hora eu tenho que perdoar a pessoa? Eu não faço nada de errado e tenho que ficar dando perdão? Quantas… quantos erros que eu vou aceitar aqui? Quantos erros eu vou aceitar? Um, dois… porque toda vez a pessoa vai ficar errando e eu vou ficar perdoando? Isso não tá legal. Isso é um exemplo.

Translation of what he’s preaching:

Everything you do, right from the beginning you must have in your mind, or even written down, what the limits are. Just as we do when we begin a business contract: resignation clause. What will I do that will interrupt this contract? You must know this from the very beginning, so that you may recognize when it starts coming at you.

So for instance, in a love relationship. You can be like this, I’m not saying you must be like this. Many people will say, I need fidelity. There must be a fidelity clause. If this person will behave intimately with other people, then for me the relationship is over. Ok, you have that well defined, fidelity clause.

Oh, but I want reciprocity. Just as much as I give myself to the relationship, I want to receive in return. If I say good morning I want to hear good morning in return, if I give affection I want to receive affection, I want this exchange, I want things to be on an equal level. I don’t want to be doing nice things if the other person is not giving me anything in return. So… reciprocity. If that isn’t there… then give up. I’ll think this relationship is not for me.

And also, forgiveness. Every time I have to forgive this person? I don’t do anything wrong and I’ll have to forgive? How many… how many mistakes will I accept here? How many mistakes will I accept? One, two… because every time this person will keep on making mistakes and I will forgive? This is not fine. That’s just an example.

What Srila Prabhupada is preaching:

You are very intelligent and devotee of the Lord. Please know it that I do not approve anyone’s separation who are married by me. If they disagree, they may live separately, but there cannot be divorce. When one is separate, one may fully devote in Krishna, but no more marriage. If this is not followed, I will not take part in anyone’s marriage in the future. I hope you will understand me right and do the needful. Hope you are well. (Letter to Krsna Devi — Delhi 29 September, 1967 )

If any wife wants to be happy with her husband, she must try to understand her husband’s temperament and please him. This is victory for a woman. Even in the dealings of Lord Kṛṣṇa with His different queens, it has been seen that although the queens were the daughters of great kings, they placed themselves before Lord Kṛṣṇa as His maidservants. However great a woman may be, she must place herself before her husband in this way; that is to say, she must be ready to carry out her husband’s orders and please him in all circumstances. Then her life will be successful. When the wife becomes as irritable as the husband, their life at home is sure to be disturbed or ultimately completely broken. In the modern day, the wife is never submissive, and therefore home life is broken even by slight incidents. Either the wife or the husband may take advantage of the divorce laws. According to the Vedic law, however, there is no such thing as divorce laws, and a woman must be trained to be submissive to the will of her husband. Westerners contend that this is a slave mentality for the wife, but factually it is not; it is the tactic by which a woman can conquer the heart of her husband, however irritable or cruel he may be. In this case we clearly see that although Cyavana Muni was not young but indeed old enough to be Sukanyā’s grandfather and was also very irritable, Sukanyā, the beautiful young daughter of a king, submitted herself to her old husband and tried to please him in all respects. Thus she was a faithful and chaste wife. ( SB 9.3.10, Purport )

original video on portugalese: The Art of Giving Up

Conclusion by Hanuman das

When GBC body needs to ban books which follow Srila Prabhupada’s teachings, they are very brave, but when they need to remove ping pong acarya and people who are preaching against Srila Prabhupada, then they remain silent. If you are not reading between the lines, this is called treason.