WOW – The birth of double secretary tattva

WOW – The birth of double secretary tattva

In my last post, Sivarama Swami’s “personal secretary” explains that she is chatting with the Swami on daily bases for last 15 years.

But, unfortunately, she is not the only secretary he has. Besides, she lives in USA, this is not fun at all if you want to have personal exchanges. There is also Manjari devi dasi, she is single, beautiful and in constant contact with the “swami”.

This is the email I sent to Sivarama Swami:

Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:47:09 +0100
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Fwd: Essay: "Reply to a Senior Leader"
From: Hanuman das
To: Svami Sivarama

Dear Sivarama Swami,

please accept my humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I received this email today, allegedly you recorded a podcast and now Hridayananda das Goswami produced reply.

I would like to confirm if you gave such podcast and where can I find it. It’s not fair for Krishna West people to circulate their paper without referencing original material.

I’ll looked here and couldn’t find anything:

Also, I would like to refute their reply, they are misquoting Srila Prabhupada by polling things out of context.

your servant,
Hanuman das

Now, reply didn’t come from Sivarama Swami himself, rather, it came from his “primary” secretary.

From: "Mañjarī Devī Dāsī"
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 06:59:23 +0100
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Essay: "Reply to a Senior Leader"
To: Hanuman das

Dear Hanuman Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Srila Sivarama Swami Maharaja requested me to send you the link to the podcast where he addressed the Krishna West approach:

Your servant,
Manjari Devi Dasi

In order to reply emails such as mine, she needs to be in constant contact with the “Swami”. As you can see, email secretary is almost identical as Sacinandana Swami’s Bhanu Nandini. Now, before I get into further trouble, I will not say anything, I will just quote what founder acarya says about sannyasis with woman secretaries (emphasis and capitalisation mine).

In the name of religion you do all nonsense rascaldom, and if the leader approves, “Yes, you can do.” Vivekananda did it. Vivekananda did it. “Yes, there is no difference between eating meat and not meating eat in terms of religious system.” He preached this, and all the sannyāsīs of Ramakrishna Mission, they eat meat, they drink, they have WOMAN SECRETARY, and everything. This Chinmayananda also like that. I know his whole history. Unless one is purely Kṛṣṇa conscious, one cannot give up ALL THESE BAD HABITS. This is the test. Morning walk — April 24, 1974, Hyderabad

As you can see, founder acarya says, if sannyasi has a woman secretary, that is bad habit. No further comment necessary.