Guru list strategy

Capati guru vs lion guru, your choice

Can somebody remind me what is the purpose of Hare Krishna movement? Can somebody remind me why Srila Prabhupada came to the west? I thought that Prabhupada came to establish true religion, and blast mayavadis, sahajiyas and all other types of nonsense people. Prabhupada came to destroy nonsense philosophies because those philosophies only bewilder people.



Rtvik Sri Gurvastakam challenge

Few days ago, I received an email from a person who contracted contagious disease called “Zombie guru theory”. Proponents of zombie guru theory claim that Prabhupada is Jesus and that he is only guru for the next 10000 years, and that he should be the diksa guru of all members of the Hare Krishna movement. They draw this silly argument from the arragement that was made by Prabhupada while is was sick and not able to travel to initiate every disciple personally.

One of the arguments which zombie guru theory proponents use to justify their nonsense is perfectly exemplified in following email from above mentioned zombie:

But I ask this, when devotees are sing Samsara Davana in the mornings who are they singing about, Devamrita, Radhanath, Sachinandana etc?
They are singing about pure devotee acharyas who can enact those activities mentioned in those verses, do you think any ISKCON ‘guru’ can arrange amerous pastimes between Radha and Krishna?



ISKCON guru starts blessing dogs

Message to fake ISKCON gurus: Please stop doing so much nonsense, I am hardly keeping up.

Disciple of AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada participated in ceremony where he was blessing dogs.


The whole problem here is that we should tell people not to worship dogs, they should worship God. That was Prabhupada’s idea.

But, who cares for Prabhupada these days, fake gurus in ISKCON certainly don’t care for his instructions, neither the GBC body cares, because they are also compromised. So, it’s more profitable to just “go along” and “bless dogs” than to actually preach to people to stop doing nonsense.

Bhaktimarga Swami published an interesting post on his blog where he added a link to the very interesting newspaper article about his preaching activities:

Ok, let’s open that newspaper article he quoted and see what is the preaching strategy:


Do you want to go back to Godhead? Be careful, if you choose wrong guru, you could find yourself assisting in a dog blessing ceremony.

Prabhupada about dog worship

Devotee (2): Dogs. They have too many.

Prabhupada: Animal worship. Yes. The worshiping tendency is there, so if they have no information of God-worshiping, they must worship dog. One must worship, but if they have no chance to worship God, they must worship dog.

Pusta Krsna: They can’t stop the worshiping tendency.

Prabhupada: No. (Conversation October 15, 1975)

Rising above dog bless level

Prabhupada: If we transfer these activities to God, we can become Kṛṣṇa conscious. That is what we are teaching. We advise that what you are doing for some nonsense, do it for God. That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. It is not difficult. But if I want to love a dog and become a dog in my next life, instead of loving God and becoming like God in the next life, that is my choice. The prison and university are open to everyone, and by making our choice, we can make our future destiny. These boys and girls are worshiping God, and people criticize them, but when a man worships a dog, he is not criticized. In this way society has progressed. When one worships God, he is criticized, and when he worships dog, he is considered a gentleman. So it is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss. (Interview with the New York Times — September 2, 1972, New Vrindaban)



Post Prabhupada nonsense

If you are regular visitor to my website, and you visited topics page page, you are probably wondering how we got into this mess. How it is possible that we have sannyasis with secretaries, sannyasis with luxury apartments and Ramesh baba glorification, this is just to name of the of many deviations perpetrated by fake gurus in ISKCON.



Equal rights and Spineless Jelly Swami

Hare Krishna, today we have another video about strange personalities which ended up on “the guru list”. Vedic scriptures never mention “the guru list” anywhere, and Prabhupada also never mentioned the guru list. Srila Prabhupada explicitly said that all his disciples have right to initiate provided they follow the process perfectly. He never said that gurus should be “voted in” by sannyasis with female secretaries and by good friends of Ramesh baba.